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Re: LED ZEPPELIN
26 May 2003 a las 21:37
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20 - Is there any more unreleased material?

There are very few (if any) unreleased _studio_ Zeppelin songs, as
most of the extras appeared on _Physical Graffiti_, _Coda_, and the
boxed sets. There are quite a few jams and alternate takes floating
around, however. _Nirvana_ reported the existence of a few more
unreleased tracks, which had found their way to the band through a
third-party.

As far as professionally-recorded live audio and video, most of
this still resides in Page's vaults, though many of the soundboard
bootlegs of the past few years were mastered from tapes stolen from
Page's house. The 1977 tour in particular is known to be pretty
thoroughly recorded. Page: "We also have live tapes going back to
1970, that go all the way through Knebworth in 1979."

This long-rumored Page-produced live retrospective is unlikely to
appear. George Marino of Sterling Sound is quoted about Page's
attitude toward releasing live material -- "Even if they were
guaranteed to sell a million of a live thing, I don't think
he'd put it out if he didn't feel that the playing was good
enough."

Page has recently expressed some interest in releasing live
material (audio and video), but Plant has killed the idea. Page:
"...but Robert has never been keen on doing it. You can't very
well do it if someone is vetoing the bloody thing. It's a lot of
work to go through all these tapes, and I'm not going to do it if
he's going to stop it."

However, the fate of one particular outtake _is_ known. In his
essay for the boxed set, Cameron Crowe mentioned the "unreleased
'Swan Song,'" a solo guitar work in the same tuning as "Kashmir"
and "White Summer". According to Crowe in a recent Prodigy article,
this tune was incorporated into Page's live "White Summer"/"Black
Mountain Side"/"Kashmir" medley (bits of it can be heard as early
as 1970) and eventually resurfaced as part of a "work-in-progress"
with Paul Rodgers on the American leg of the ARMS tour. Later, it
was fleshed out to become the core of the song "Midnight Moonlight"
on the Firm's first album.
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21 - How does the band feel about bootlegs?

First of all, a few definitions--"bootlegs" are, in this case,
defined as live concert recordings, studio outtakes, radio
broadcasts, and similar material neither released nor sanctioned
by the band or its management. They are not to be confused with
counterfeit copies of legitimate releases, which are uniformly
denounced and actively prosecuted by the law.

In the past, Peter Grant used to make surprise stops in record
stores to destroy any Zeppelin bootlegs he found. He also
confiscated or destroyed any microphones and recording equipment
he found at concerts. Since then, however, the band has mellowed
considerably on the subject.

Jimmy Page: "_Coda_ was released, basically, because there was
so much bootleg stuff out. We thought, 'Well, if there's that
much interest, then we may as well put the rest of our studio
stuff out.'" Yet another reason the much-discussed chronological
live album has not been released is, according to Page, because,
"there are so many bootlegs around that people who are interested
have probably made up their own compilation." He also has said,
on the possibility of more studio outtakes being released: "Ah,
no. There's some great live stuff. But there's also some great
live bootlegs, ha ha. Thank God they're there and thanks to the
people who send me these things. I listen to them and go, 'My
God, that was good. I wish it had been recorded on the line.'"

Robert Plant has often been known to autograph bootlegs, and all
three members have from time to time requested copies of some of
the better known productions. And a Page fan reports meeting
Page and giving him a copy of a 10-album Zeppelin bootleg set.
Page said, "Thanks," and continued walking on, as rock stars
usually do when fans hand them something. But when he saw that
the gift was a bootleg, Page stopped, went back to the fan, and
said, "Thanks! This is great!"

Page's opinion of boots has soured somewhat since the release of
_Outrider_, however, as his house was broken into during the
early recording stages. Among the items stolen were the demo
tapes for what was to be a 2-album release (rather than the 1
that came out as _Outrider_), numerous studio outtakes and live
soundboard recordings which have since flooded the market, and
the pro-shot Knebworth video from 8-11-79. Page also confiscated
an armful of bootlegs in a Japanese store while on tour with
Coverdale/Page, so what his current feelings are unknown.

Plant's opinion of live material in general seems to have soured
a bit as well, though whether or not he makes a distinction in the
case of bootlegs is not known. Interestingly, he was recently
spotted in a bootleg store in New York, searching for a copy of
the Page/Plant/Bombay Symphony recordings.
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22 - Where do I get bootlegs?

This is a touchy subject, as the sale, distribution, and receipt
of bootlegs is illegal. To protect the list from the (extremely
unlikely) possiblility of litigation, care must be taken to
seperate the illegal aspects of bootlegging from the (perfectly
legal) academic discussion of them. Lists of traders will not
appear in this FAQL, nor should the specifics of trading appear
in the list. Bootleg lists, actual trades, bids, and the like
should _not_ be posted. Caution should be exercised for the
protection of both the list and the traders themselves. Having
supplied the necessary disclaimers:

Small (non-chain) record stores that advertise "New-Old-Used"
records almost always carry bootleg albums and CDs, as well as
some out-of-print stuff. _Goldmine_ and _Record Collector_
magazine can be scanned for sources, though _Goldmine_ no longer
allows small collectors to specifically advertise bootlegs. Tape
trading, the most popular form of collecting, is usually restricted
to individuals rather than organizations or companies. Though
beginning collectors often have no choice, many tape traders frown
upon the "sale" of bootlegs--preferring "even" trades (sometimes
with postage compensation) to buying and selling.

Most often, simply posting to the list and stating your desire to
find unreleased Zeppelin material will start the ball rolling. If
you have bootlegs that you want to trade, then a post to that effect
is acceptable (while a detailed list may not be).

Note that the discussion of bootlegs is in no way illegal, and is
an important facet of the list's discussions.
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23 - Which bootlegs should I start with?

This is a very short list of the most popular collections/shows
culled from _A Celebration_ and ZOSO Magazine. A more up-to-date
version is in preparation. Apologies if your favorites were left
out:

The ZOSO Top Ten CDs:

Tour Over Europe '80 (Zurich), Moonlight/Dinosaur, Dallas '75,
Classics Off The Air I, II, & III, Blueberry Hill, Live In San
Francisco, Destroyer (Archive version), Stokes '73, Rotterdam
'80, Silver Coated Rails/Rock & Roll

Recommendations culled from a special ZOSO feature and _A
Celebration_:

LP's -- Bonzo's Birthday Party, Cologne 1980, Copenhagen
Warm-Ups--The 2nd Night, Feel All Right, Fillmore West 1969, V
1/2 (Highway or TMQ), For Badgeholders Only, Going To California,
How Many More Times, Knebworth (Stork), Live At The Budokan, Pb
(a/k/a Mudslide), No Quarter, Tangible Vandalism, Three Days
After, 214, 207.19, LA Forum--A Night At The Heartbreak Hotel,
Persistence, Live at the Chicago Stadium, Bonzo's Last Ever Gig
In Berlin, The Can, In The Light '69-'85, Something Else,
Hiawatha Express, The Making Of Friends, Studio Rehearsals May
1970, Inedits, Out Through The Back Door, The Last Rehearsal,
Listen To This Eddie, Strange Tales From The road, Alpha Omega,
White Summer, Live at the London Lyceum, Bath Festival 1970, My
Brain Hurts, Quantient, Bonzo's Birthday Party

CDs -- (in addition to above list)--Something Else, Studio
Daze, Last Stand/ Final Touch, Jennings Farm Blues Tapes--2-1-69
Fillmore East, 4-7-70 Raleigh NC, 9-29-71 Festival Hall Osaka,
6-9-71 Charlotte NC, 6-19-72 Seattle, 6-25-72 The Forum LA, 10-4
& 10-9-72 Osaka, 5-5-73 Tampa, 5-13-73 Mobile AL, 5-14-73 New
Orleans, 5-19-73 Fort Worth, 7-6-73 Chicago, 7-21-73 Providence,
7-26-73 Buffalo, 2-12-75 MSG NY, 2-28-75 Louisiana State
University Baton Rouge, 3-5-75 Dallas, 3-10-75 San Diego, 3-24 &
3-25 & 3-27-75 LA Forum, 5-(17,18,23,24,25)-75 Earls Court,
6-7-77 MSG NY, 6-19-77 San Diego, 6-(21,25,27)-77 LA Forum,
7-23-77 Oakland, 8-11-79 Knebworth, 7-2 & 7-3-80 Mannheim

Videos -- Danish TV 1969, 1-9-70 Royal Albert Hall, 1-21-75
Chicago, 2-8-75 Philadelphia, 3-75 Seattle, 3-24-75 LA Forum,
5-18-77 Birmingham, 7-23-77 Oakland, 7-11-79 Knebworth, 7-5-80
Munich

Note that there's duplication and overlap in the above lists. A
few notes about formats--the quality of CD releases is only
occasionally better than other formats, but the permanence and
playback advantages of CDs have convinced many collectors to
concentrate on them. The CDs are not always tracked well, though--
track markers are often misplaced or missing altogether. LPs
suffer from quality problems with repeated playback and
scratching, but have the advantage of better packaging. Tapes are
the cheapest option, and suffer the most from each playback/
copy--thus low generation tapes are prized by tape traders.
However, tapes have two significant advantages over other formats:
many shows have never appeared on CD or LP, and complete concerts
are much easier to obtain on this format (CDs and LPs exhibit the
so-called "slice and dice" mentality of bootleggers trying to deal
with maximum time strictures and still make money).
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24 - Are there any books on Led Zeppelin?

Many. Few good ones, though. The key resources are:

_Led Zeppelin_ -- Howard Mylett

_Led Zeppelin In The Light_ -- Howard Mylett and Richard Bunton

_Led Zeppelin From The Archives_ -- Howard Mylett

Photos, 56 pages. Contact Howard Mylett, 151 Thornhill Rise,
Mile Oak, Portslade, Sussex, BN41 2YJ, England. 10 pounds
sterling.

_Led Zeppelin: The Definitive Biography_ -- Richie Yorke

_Led Zeppelin In Their Own Words_ -- Paul Kendall

_Led Zeppelin: A Visual Documentary_ -- Paul Kendall

_Led Zeppelin Portraits_ -- Neal Preston -- This book is a
must-have, as Preston was an "official" photographer and
knew better than anyone how to capture Zeppelin's mystique.

_Led Zeppelin: The Final Acclaim_ -- Dave Lewis

_Led Zeppelin: The Book_ -- Chris Welch

_Stairway To Heaven_ -- Richard Cole -- Basically a rewrite of
_Hammer Of The Gods_, with a few more personal stories and
photos thrown in. Less ridiculous speculation than Davis'
book, though. Page: "There's a book written by our former
road manager, Richard Cole that has made me completely ill.
I'm so mad about it that I can't even bring myself to read
the whole thing. The two bits that I have read are so
ridiculously false, that I'm sure if I read the rest I'd
be able to sue Cole and the publishers. But it would be
so painful to read that it wouldn't be worth it.

_The Illustrated Collectors Guide To Led Zeppelin, 3rd edition
-- Robert Godwin -- Another must-have, covers the legal and
bootleg discographies on vinyl and CD, though the pace of
new CD releases makes the latter section obsolete. According
to Hugh Jones of Proximity, however, Godwin is working on a
4th edition that will cover all new CD releases (up to the
printing date, that is), color photos, and the most
comprehensive tour date listing yet.

_Led Zeppelin Live (An Illustrated Exploration Of Underground
Tapes) (2nd edition)_ -- Luis Rey -- Features concert
reviews, photos, and bootleg descriptions, along with the
matching of concerts to specific bootlegs. Susan
Pickel-Hedrick and Base Hedrick (editors of the Page fanzine
_Oh Jimmy_) also edited this book. It is available from Hot
Wacks Press, P.O. Box 544, Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada, N4K
5R1, for $21.00 (US) postage paid.

_The Led Zeppelin Worldwide Collector's Guide Of Singles And
Extended Plays_ -- Samuel Ketenjian -- picture sleeves, pictures
of described memorabilia, singles, EPs, and complete country-
by-country listings. $5 per book (or $10 for a limited
edition signed and numbered copy) + $3.50 postage ($5.00
overseas) to Samuel Ketenjian, 16335 Calahan St., North Hills,
CA 91343. (818) 893-2079, fax (818) 893-1547.

_Led Zeppelin A Celebration_ -- Dave Lewis -- The principal
resource for this FAQL. Incredible.

_Led Zeppelin Heaven And Hell_ -- Charles Cross and Erik Flannigan,
with Neal Preston -- another key resource for this FAQL.

_Jimmy Page: Tangents Within A Framework_ -- Howard Mylett

_Live Dreams_ -- Laurance Ratner -- Possibly the best-produced Led
Zeppelin work yet, a 200+ page coffee-table book with only
4000 copies printed. Wonderful color photos (some of the best
out there), a specially-commissioned artwork on the cover,
superior materials used for the paper and binding, and a
forward by Dave Lewis. Expensive, but worth it for the
serious collector. Larry is online, so you can contact him if
you have questions.
Contact: LRC Limited
P.O. Box 10648
Chicago, IL 60610-6048
(USA)
[email protected]

_The Complete Guide To The Music Of Led Zeppelin_ -- Dave Lewis
Simply an excerpting of the song analysis in _A Celebration_,
with some info on new songs, pictures, and downsized to fit
in a standard CD rack.

..and, of course:

_Hammer Of The Gods_ -- Stephen Davis -- The band denounces it.
It's mostly the whisperings of tour manager/perpetual addict
Richard Cole, whose own book is much more valuable for this
type of insight. Readers should know that Stephen Davis
once claimed (quite seriously), in an interview for a Zeppelin
fanzine, that Jimmy Page had put some sort of curse on him.
Read at your own risk.
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25 - Are there any music books featuring Led Zeppelin?

There are _many_ third-party collection (mostly simplified tab
collections) of material from the first five albums, and for
the most part these are not listed here.

"Stairway To Heaven" -- Warner Brothers (piano, notation + tab,
tab, easy piano)
This exists in all 4 formats--the notation + tab format is
licensed by Warner Brothers to _Guitar For The Practicing
Musician_, and the easy piano edition exists as a Warner
Brothers production (though we've seen Dan Coates' version
in the past).

_Led Zeppelin Complete_ -- Superhype/Warner Brothers (piano or
piano + tab)
Music from the first 5 albums. This also exists in an
Intermediate Guitar format.

_Led Zeppelin Complete Vol. 2_ -- Superhype/Flames Of Albion/
Warner Brothers (piano or piano + tab)
Music from the last 4 studio albums. This is not yet widely
available, it seems.

_Led Zeppelin Guitar Superstar Series_ -- Warner Brothers (tab)
Intermediate guitar transcriptions, from the first six albums.

_Led Zeppelin_ -- Warner Brothers (notation + tab)
A 2-book companion to the 4CD set, features notation and
tablature for all instruments used on the boxed set tracks.
The transcription is excellent, though the lyrical
interpretations leave something to be desired. Whether or
not this process will be repeated for _Boxed Set 2_ is
unknown.




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